The Manufacturing Executive
The Manufacturing Executive

Episode · 1 year ago

Why We’re Proud to Be Manufacturers & Engineers


At first, his entry into the manufacturing industry was out of a need for survival.

But it quickly grew into a passion to encourage those who want to become a better version of themselves to embrace the hope, pride, and success to be found in manufacturing.

In this episode, I interview Tony Gunn, General Manager at MTDCNC Global and Founder and CEO at Your Tea of Life, about his amazing career trajectory from being kicked out of three colleges to entrepreneurship.

In this episode we discuss:

  • How manufacturing equips us to create our own futures
  • Tony’s discovery of his passion for learning and creating
  • Why manufacturing is such a welcoming and uplifting career
  • 3 stories about struggle, success, and advocacy

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

  • Tony’s podcast is The Gunn Show

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I want parents when somebody goes hey, what your kid do? All my kids a pilot and they puff out their chest. Yeah, we're proud of the pilot's awesome, we need you. I fly around all the time. But I also want the parent next to them to go, well, what's your kid do? Puff out your chest. So He's an engineer. He helped build that plane. I want people to be equally as proud of the doctors and the people who are making the medical devices. I want that awareness to grow so that we're proud of each other for what we do. Welcome to the manufacturing executive podcast, where we explore the strategies and experiences that are driving midsize manufacturers forward. Here you'll discover new insights from passionate manufacturing leaders who have compelling stories to share about their successes and struggles, and you'll learn from B tob sales and marketing experts about how to apply actionable business development strategies inside your business. Let's get into the show. Welcome to another episode of the Manufacturing Executive podcast. I'm Joe Sullivan, your host and a cofounder of the Industrial Marketing Agency guerrilla seventy six, one of my favorite things about working with the manufacturing sector is seeing all the ways our clients shape the world around us. Everything you see that doesn't grow out of the Earth was designed, engineered and built by someone. My guest today is someone who's passionate about sharing all the good that engineering could do in this world. His passion and enthusiasm for both engineering and manufacturing is undeniable and it's the type of energy we need to shed a positive light on this industry for the next generation. So, on that note, let me introduce Tony Gun Tony Gunn is an avid world traveler, visionary and all around people person, having traveled over fifty countries around the world. He's transcended to plus decades of engineering and manufacturing experience into a partnership with Mtd CNC, the world's most popular machining channel, and effort to create awareness for all the amazing products, people and opportunities within the fascinating world where math, science and creativity are baptized and immersed as one. Tony is an international best selling author whose book went number one and seven countries under topics like self help, personal transformation and motivational growth. He's also the host of an exciting new podcast series, the gun show, where guests have the opportunity to share their stories with the world, which helps humanize and industry that's incredibly misunderstood. Tony has also applied his years of world travels and independent studies in order to create a natural healing company known for its one of a kind combination of herbs, roots and flowers, which help prevent, improve and remove ailments of all kinds. Much of the profits from this company go to the wellbeing of people in need, the Rehab of the earth and innocent forgotten animals. Tony,...

...welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. Brother, it's good to be here. Yeah, man, well, we've kind of known each other. We've been kind of like in the same circles, I feel like, in linked in, especially, a lot of common connections and I'm always commenting on your posts and you on mine and stuff, and we didn't actually physically talk until about a month ago or so. So it's it's good to be having a real live conversation with you, with you here. Yeah, that's odd in the world we live in these days, right where you send each other text messages or emails or little linkedin messages but we often fail to pick up the phone and go hey. So that's what your voice sounds like. Awesome, you sound as great as you look. You know that kind of Bay right. So, yeah, we've known each other for quite a while or surrounded by a lot of the same influencers and brilliant minds, because you similar to me. We like to surround ourselves with people that are smarter than ourselves so that we can learn something. And one of my favorite quotes is your smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room. Good the hell out of there. I like that for sure. Well, Tony, you know when we talked it was you know, I picked you for as a possible, you know, candidate for this podcast, because I see your content all the all the time on Linkedin in particular. Think you've got twenty Onezero plus followers as of the last time I've checked, which is pretty awesome. You've got a great platform for broadcasting a message and you share a lot of super interesting videos, I mean, like machines at work. Also a lot of things that I want to get into a little later in this conversation, like being really interesting applications of engineering for the greater good. Of Humanity, frankly, and there's some cool examples a I'll maybe mentioned in a bit. But you know, when I when I had you in mind for the show, I'm like, Oh, let's talk about how you know using linkedin and and some of the video content that you're curating and posting. and wasn't all. We had a conversation that I learned some of the stories from that kind of how you got to where you are today and some of the challenges you've been through. And so usually I say hey, why don't you know? I usually tell my guess. Why don't you talk a little bit about how you got here for a couple minutes, I'm going to say once you talk about how you got here for as long as you want to, because you've got a super interesting story to tell, I think, and would love for you to tell our listeners about how it's sort of shaped where who and where you are today. Yeah, I'd absolutely love to. But to start just let me say thank you for finding value in my linkedin age and in the post, and I hope others do as well. It's certainly one of those hopefully presented in a way that has very little to do with ego and very much to do with awareness. You know, I hope that it provides people a platform to see something they haven't seen before or feel inspired to want to be a part of an industry where they didn't realize, you know, some pieces are being created. You know, oftentimes we don't put two and two together to go, oh, man, my you know my best friend, he just came back. You know, he's a military bet he just came back and he had a horrific accident. You know, thank you for the service, I would think, but he's missing a limb. Holy Crap, I didn't realize that. Being an engineering means I can help that limb come back in some sort of bionic and really cool way.

So, and that's just one tiny example. I know we'll talk about that a little bit more. I just wanted to just say thank you for paying attentions to that and I hope it provides a great platform for others as well. But back to your question of how I got where I am today, and we'll find out what the listeners if it's interesting or not. I think it is. I think it's pretty wild actually, and I'm one of those stubborn guys that pretty much does whatever I want if it feels right and it doesn't hurt anyone right. So I'm not going to go be violent, but if a rule doesn't make sense to my logical side of my brain, you could forget about it. I'm going to ignore that all day long. And so I've ended up in some unique situations and some unique places. I guess. To start, I think it's important for people to understand, especially the kids of today, but also, let me you know, maybe I should take out especially and go expecially the parents today, but also emphasize that a support that the kids learn, because there was a generation where we, I think our parents and are in the parents before them. There was a generation that felt like a lot of manufacturing kind of hurt them, and what I mean by that is a lot of products will being off short and done in other places right and and a lot of jobs were lost, and so people got stuck being, you know, having this education or having this this technical ability, but there was no job for it because so much stuff was being off short for a last couple of generations. And we're just starting to realize again how significant can it is that we can create here at home, that we can build here at home that we can restore here at home. And the reason I'm explaining this is because part of where I come from and part of what I'm about to share is all inclusive into that awareness and realization and really just this massive passion that ultimately goes back to wanting to help people. Right. So, as I was growing up, I didn't grow up so easily, and you're welcome to interrupt me at any point be like, are you serious right now, or wherever you want to do. You welcome to interrupt me, brother, at any time. But you know, I grew up in a situation that didn't have a lot of money, not a lot of opportunity. The only thing that I grew up with really was stubborn mind and soccer skills. So my whole life I thought I was gonna be a professional soccer player, which, as everyone can see, did not work out. I wasn't quite good enough. I played in college, I was on, you know, like the All American team, you know, things like that, but it's just a completely different level of understanding when you get to the really the one percent of the one percent of the one percent, right, and due to that factor, I needed to get a job and I just so happened to hop into the world of manufacturing because the company had the best insurance around. I needed insurance, I needed to take care of my beat up soccer body. So at that time, by default, no degree. Actually, to be fair, I got kicked out of three colleges. I want that not to be looked down upon. I want it to be looked at with authenticity, because a message I want to create for people outside of this industry right now that think that they may not have hope there... you can come into this industry if your father, you know, doesn't provide a massive or your mother doesn't provide a massive amount of income for you, if you happen to be on the wrong side of the tracks, as people say, and you don't believe there's any opportunity, whether it be, you know, jail or whatever whatever it might be. Right, what your future is is what we can create. We can, we can massively create whatever future we want. And so for me, admitting I got kicked out of three colleges thinking that I was going to be a soccer player and never graduated, I want that message to be shared, I want it to have volume and I want people who think that they're going through a similar situation to go will shoot if he's traveled the world to over fifty countries and learned and worked with some of the most elite companies on the planet, like the Google's and the Tesla's and the SPACEX and the apples, and he got kicked out of three colleges, that maybe I can do it too right. So that's the message I want to provide now. To become the person that I am today, and you mentioned this as well, with a lot of the direction and post that I make have to do in the direction of compassion, caring, unity, doing good for one another. When I was a early s I more or less died in the hospital by anemone. You took my life, suffocated my lungs. I've had friends killed at a young age. I've had family members lost at a young age. There were a lot of trials and tribulations that happened from about age twenty one to about twenty five or so right and there was a lot of suffering, to be fair, a lot of emotional suffering, you know, and and that emotional suffering started to suffocate me. And what I did, which not everyone can do. But how I found my way out of a really dark place was through music, and I was never good at it, but I actually performed tiphop music for almost a decade and some people will go hip hop music, we don't know that. You do not look like a hip hop guy, and I don't. And it was by default because before I got kicked out of college, I wrote poetry for the newspaper and I cannot sing, no matter how bad I'd love to sing, but it's awful. So by default I could say words in rhymes and I needed to get some things off of my chest. So my suffering that I was going through, so that therapeutic situation just was incredibly powerful. And I'm going to kind of leave it there because I don't want to talk too much because I value your opinion and your seguys as well. By friend. But that's kind of the very beginning of my journey, before I became a machinist, before I switched into a different style of machinery, before I started traveling around and before what I'm doing today. A lot of it came from absolute suffering, which is kind of how duality works. How do we know what a good apple takes, like if we've never tasted a bad apple. You know what I mean. How do we know these differences if we don't get to experience these differences? So I am extremely grateful for the hardships and the amount of hardships I went through it one time to allow me to appreciate all the greatness that's around me right now. That's really cool.

I love how you've taken your life experiences in some of the you know, the tough things you went through as a child and into your early adult life, and and figured out how to turn that into something positive, not only for yourself but in the message you kind of broadcast for for the world and and particularly for the manufacturing world. So you mentioned you got into manufacturing because you needed insurance and you found a job and they had insurance it. But tell me, like you're a guy who kind of see looses passion for what you do. It's very clear. What was it once you got into manufacturing that made you say like yeah, this is for me, this is this is where I'm going to take my career from here. It's a it's a really excellent question, Joe, it really is. And the reason it's an excellent question is because I wasn't that guy on day one who said Oh, we I can't wait to do this lest of my life, because I was running a punch press and I was dirty every day and all the cliches that I'm trying to get people to not think about was actually what I went through. You know, I was programming on a one point four, four megabyte and every time I bring that up somebody else goes yeah, but you got to skip the tape programming. Yes, I did. I did get to skip the tape programming, but on an early age, you know, we were on the you know, older machines and we were making all of the offsets, all of the program and all of the adjustments were just we typed them in ourselves, line by line, until we really upgraded and started using excel. If that tells you how advanced that company was at that time. My Passion for this company, of this this industry came really much later. It was more of survival at the beginning, right. I needed a job and I needed to make more money, and then I needed to make more money and then I because, you know, then families and then lifestyle and that kind of thing. So starting on a punch press. The first thing I ever did was push too buttons on the right and left with both of my hands. If I didn't then maybe I'd, you know, cut my finger off. So that was a safety measure. A piece of plexiglass came down and it will punch a circular hole into a flat sheet of precious metal, and that precious metal could have been gold, silver, palladium, platinum, whatever it might be. The first industry I worked in was precious metals and while I was there, I always have. I've always had the passion to be successful. Right it's not necessarily been a manufacturing to start, but it was to do something cool, to do something fun. So within that company I said how could I be the best version of myself that I can be, and I don't need to compete with the person next to me, the person who's been here for a million years. I just need to be the best version of myself. How do I do that? So I picked the highest senior programmer in our department and he was kind enough to teach me a lot of his wisdom of how to make edits and offsets and programming and understanding G COODE and mcode and and I ended up running that department after a while, and while running that department I also had the great opportunity to,... know, be a part of company improvement committees. And then there was this thing called, I think, software, which most people haven't heard of, but most people have heard of six sigma. So if you think of lean manufacturing five as six sigma, it's a lot of grass, it's a lot of charts, as a lot of theory of what we believe. I think software is where you take that, put it, that algorithm, into a computer and that computer will actually run that flow chart to see if you're right, to see if the bottlenext really are where they're supposed to be. So I had the great opportunity to be in charge of that and learned the lean manufacturing side of things. At that time I had designed a seven, I want to say seven different rings which were patented by the company. So my designs ended up being patented by that company and it was really just an exciting thing. These different these different aspects right, but it was a family owned company and at some point when you can't grow anymore, you either just start becoming stagnant or make a move right and I chose to make a move. So from there I went into two steels and ink andales and brass and I it was the first time I ran a hosts machine and I taught myself how to run it. It was a VF six, I remember vividly, and we were running, you know, giant steel circular parts for the radiator coil industry, two very tiny parts as well, and it was a lot of drilling million that kind of stuff. I burnt up a few in middles at that time figuring out wait, this this machines a little different than platinum. And now I might have been considered it in a top five percent in the world of understating how machine platinum, but I'm probably in the negative five percent of understanding how to machine steel. So let's figure this out. So I had the great opportunity to do steals and Incanales and brasses and illuminum and play in that world. That didn't last too long because the opportunity at that place it just the ceiling was low and I get bored easily if I'm not learning. So then I moved into the woodworking world and help run a machine shop that was for acres and it was completely new machinery, right. So I was learning now on a crns rude, who I love those machines, based in North Carolina. So a router machine putting out the wood panels for doors for there I started learning sanding lines and paint lines and all this other kind of stuff. And then somehow, through growth in that company, I ended up becoming an interior designer. Believe it or not. Oddly enough, while working in the world of woodworking, we were building custom cabinetry for anyone, whether it be kitchens, living rooms, bathrooms, whatever it might be, and they saw, I guess, a little bit of I don't want to say like a spark, but drive, let's say. There was always a drive to want to do more. And it wasn't that I wanted to leave the shop floor, I just wanted to learn more. So a few small steps here and there and I ended up being the right hand man of the owner and and we'd have customers come in, and I'm trying to try to describe this so the listeners can envision it right. So we're sitting in a conference room and these customers come in. You know they're getting ready to build a hundred and fiftyzero dollar custom kitchen, because that's when the owner sits down right. So we have my laptop and connected to my laptop is a big monitor so that the customers can see the screen while I'm designing it.

And I'm supposed to be able to design a kitchen as quickly as they can talk about it, which is what I figured out how to do. So as quickly as you can say I want this here, in this here, in this here. Boom, boom boom. We were moving this thing around and it was called Cabinet Vision. Cabinet vision really, really a cool opportunity. But then I also started to realize, kind of going full circle back to how you introduced this whole thing, of I've always been stubborn and I always want to do something that's going to make me happy and give back to others in a passionate way. So I put everything in a u haul, I left that job, I drove south to Florida because I wanted to live on vacation. Forgot to mention all of that was in the Virginia DC area that I just talked about. Drove down to Florida because I wanted to live on vacation. Had No job, no place to live. My wife was six months pregnant at that time. We really just wanted to live on vacation and it took me eighteen twenty hours to make the drive, slept for about five hours, took on three interviews and all three companies hired me, and the one that I took was air turbine technology. And for those people who don't know air turbine technology, that was when I got to learn micromachining. I mean the realm of ten thousand fifteen thousands, a millimeter of forty thousand or point zero, three nine thirty seven. That was the world I lived in for the last decade, which took me to see so many unique people, and that was when, that was when that connection, Joe, that the original question you asked me before I had this really long winded answer that I'm doing right now. That is when I started to find a passion for the industry itself because I saw the success that we were creating for companies. The success that was being created created success for the employees. The successful the employees meant that they could go home and feed their family and not stress about a job, and I started to see this, this small picture. I was staring at a small screen and then it's like I got wings and I was able to look at a global version of what manufacturing and engineering actually can do to stabilize not just households, which is incredibly important, but economies and and you don't have to worry about necessarily if we go to a there's nothing against college, Joe, Nothing Against College. So let me echo that again. For people who are going to college, for parents who want their kids to go to college, college is awesome. The experience is awesome. If that's for you, do it. However, I would like to say that it's very important for people to realize that you can go to a tech school right now, right now, and you will walk out of that Tech School with either zero or very little student loans. Walking out of it, you'll go right into a job because there's a massive skills gap where you can instantly make forty to eightyzero dollars a year and you have something that you don't have to stress about not having to borrow. This industry needs more people and if we can convey these types of messages, then we're helping and we're not just helping an economy. We're helping people, we're helping humans, we're hope... helping household to me, that's what's so beautiful and amazing about it. I love that. I love the passion that's in your voice. It's just very clear that you know, you really believe in what you're talking about and it's a good transition into a question I wanted to ask you because, you know, like I mentioned at the very beginning here, I see your linkedin content all the time. You're always curating videos and a lot of the things I see you post are, you know, videos you're sharing that are then getting, you know, thousands of views and hundreds of comments, but it's a lot of it is people who are doing good in the world through engineering and manufacturing. And just for a couple examples, these ones are, I think both you posted in the last week videos. You shared one of them. I remember it was a it looked like maybe a six year old girl. I've got a six year old daughter at home, so I I see that and they hit home with me. But this is a six year old girl on a treadmill, without fully formed arms or legs and she's running on a treadmill with the help of manufactured limbs. And then there was another one you posted. It was a soon to be mom who was blind and she's holding a D printed model of her ultrasound photo with like, you know, just tears in her eyes like that she can feel, you know, this baby in this picture of her baby, that that is on the way. And so, you know, they're micro examples of the good that engineering is doing in the world and in manufacturing. And so I would love for you to just kind of you know, what is it that inspires you to share this, what you talk about this topic of engineering for good and why it's so important to you? It's really a great question. Again, you're fantastic at your podcasting, brother and your fifteen years in the making and what you're doing at g seventy six. I'd like to say thank you to you as well and to your team and allowing people to have a voice. You know, we we allot. Everyone has a story, right and everyone wants to share their story to people who actually listen. The problem is most of us don't listen anymore. We always afflory. We're either, you know, on our phones looking down or ignoring people or, you know, we forget how important it is to listen to one another. So thank you for doing what you're doing very much, and I mean that a lot. I'm going to share a couple of stories with your brother when I suffocated and when I lost a lot of people in my life and I grew up not being the best version of myself at all. I was a troublemaker and, as I started to realize in life, this might sound a lot of you know, weird to our general audience who's in manufacturing engineering, but I have both sides of my brain work actively all the time, the creative side with natural healing, the engineering side with numbers and algorithms. So it's always constantly working. I'm always trying to figure out how can I balance all of what I want to be right. So, due to my upbringing, let's say the way that I grew up, and not be in the nicest person I feel like some of that carmic energy brought about some of the negative things in my life or less, and I said let's say learning experiences, because nothing's really negative,...'s just I'm either going to learn from it or it's going to be easy to get through. Let's make that choice, you know what I mean. So, due to that, I realized that when I was kind er, nicer, cared about others, when I gave, I received more. Every time I give, I received more. I'll tell you. I want to tell you three stories, and the three ques simple stories, but I want to tell you three stories. First one is I was having a bad day. I was in San Francisco. I woke up grumpy. I had no idea why, I just the day was crap. It was already crap. Maybe it was something I had done the day before. Maybe I didn't make a sale that I thought I was going to sell, but a little customer. Maybe I broke something I would I don't remember, but I remember waking up feeling like crap and I said what can I do? Well, I walked over to the local McDonald's. Not Something I personally eat at, but something that's inexpensive and can be shared. So I walked over to the local McDonald's, bought fifty dollars worth of whatever their breakfast items were, you know, egnant muffins or whatever, and I walked around, going gate park and I handed them out and with everyone I handed out the hugs, the joy, everything that came along with it just helped me feel happier and happier and happier. So giving and receiving our absolutely symbiotic and how it works. And that was just one small example. Another time this guy had he was having a bad drug experience in southern California and he was freaking out and I went to get ass and he was, I mean he was and he was struggling, sweating like crazy. Not a drug that I've ever participated in, but I recognize that based on trying to do my best to help people on a regular basis, right so I've seen these types of situations. He was scared for his life. He did not want to be there. Nobody, no way in the right mind, was going to help the kid. But I let him get in my car and I drove him around for forty five minutes. He did not want to get out, he just wanted to to be away from whoever he thought was chasing him, which was nobody, but that's what he thought. So I drove her off for forty five minutes, listening to him talk, helping him go through his bead trip, trying to offer him the most authentic and Compassionate version of myself so that he knew that when he left that car, that everything was going to be okay. And after about forty five minutes, that's what it was. So I ended up dropping him off in a lighted area. I had never saw him sense, of course, and I didn't get his number anything, but as just an opportunity to face my own fears, which is, at any point this guy could hurt me right at any point. Now to the climax of the three stories, as his last one. Joe, you're going to like it, and actually some people on a show called hidden heroes actually found this story and interviewed me about six seven. You maybe four or five, six seven, I don't remember. A few years ago, and I'm gonna preface this with my younger brother, who's two years younger than me, ended up being diagnosed with schizophrenia and burnt down our house when I was about twenty years old. So when our house burnt down and I knew that he had schizophrenia and he spent a year in jail and I visited him all the time, I started studying schizophrenia. Well, what can I do to help? I mean, that's my best friend, that's my two years. We grew up together. I love the Kid freaking what do I do? You know, there's no real...

...answers, but we're you know, I'm homeless at the time. I'm sleeping in my car. I'm very, very lucky sleeping on the street some and I'm very, very lucky to have such beautiful friends in my life that I didn't stay on the streets very long. Did that we crash their pads. So I'm grateful for that. But what I learned was all the schizophrenia out there, of all the doctors out there, less than two percent study schizophrenia and all of those two percent there is no cure. So for the rest of my brother's life he's gonna be shoves pills down his throat to become passive so it doesn't burn down other houses and he's always going to hear the voices and see the visions of what I believe to be a Peneo gland chemical drip. Some people understand what DMT is, some people don't, but it's a drip in our brain that helps us experience things that are outside of our third dimensional reality. That's not manufacturing, so I'm going to skip past that part. And use that for another podcast. But it does segue into me understanding that about eighty percent of the people on the street right now that are homeless have some sort of mental illness. And that could be gambling and it could be, you know, some sort of it could be a lot of things right, but there's it's some sort of mental illness where they can't carry out a job. Some of it scams. It's not for me to judge. I always want to help. But because I knew that situation and I was in Minneapolis, Minnesota, I walked out of a bar and for whatever reason, this homeless guys sitting there. I was in whatever mood I was in, which was a good mood. It felt right to do everything that I could to take care of that person. So I asked that homeless person, who I had never met before, if you'd like to crash for the next two nights in my hotel room. gave him my clothes, got him room service, made sure he was warm, brush his teeth, you know, all that kind of stuff. When I went to work during the day, I asked him to leave and I would see him when I got back from work. But that also was one of those opportunities that I had where I was like, okay, you know, mental illness is rampant with homeless people. You just invited someone in who could be very similar to your brother without medicine, who could be very aggressive. So for me, I wouldn't recommend it for other people, but for me I was in one room laying in my bed, he was on another room, laying in the couch, and I had a moment where I go, is today going to be my last day? Is all my stuff going to get taken from me? And nothing bad happened. It was just this fear of creation that I was I was building with them myself. That wasn't reality. It could be reality, but it wasn't reality. And so, facing these types of fears and helping these types of people, I want to do everything that I can to I don't know, subscribe as the right word or, you know, just infiltrait some of the school I want to provide a platform of knowledge so that kids can have a future within an industry that is incredibly important to the world and when they go home every day they'll be proud of what they do. So the...

...short answer, which I just gave you a very long but the short answer is, why do I care and why manufacturing is because I've suffered a lot and I know what it's like to suffer. I want to give to others and in the world we live in, of manufacturing, I know that that's a solid platform for people to feel proud of themselves, to feel grateful for what they do, to feel grateful for what they've built, to say I have this piece of material in my hand right now. This piece of material cost me twenty five dollars. Now I can program something and cut some pieces, or I turn this twenty five piece of material into a thousand dollar piece of art and it's going to go on to a plane or it's going to go into the medical field. I want parents, when somebody goes hey, what your kid do? All my kids a pilot and they puff out their chest. Yeah, we're proud of the pilot's awesome, we need you. I fly around all the time. But I also want the parent next to them to go, but what's your kid do? Puff out your chest. So He's an engineer. He helped build that plane. I want people to be equally as proud of the doctors and the people who are making the medical devices. I want that awareness to grow so that we're proud of each other for what we do. Love that message, Tony. I think it's really great. We need more people like you spread in the word and painting manufacturing in a, you know, more positive light. And I've seen a lot of people talk about this from different angles. You know, the technology that's that's available to people now. It's not just dirty, dark, dangerous jobs like there's. There's so much interesting things happening on the technology front. There are great jobs that, I mean you mentioned earlier to that are paying people well straight out of high school and like college, may not be for everybody. And that does mean because you're not smart enough, for Ben because maybe that that's just not the path that makes sense for you and has nothing to do with how intelligent you are. Not, and and I love the you know, just that your perspective on this, that you know you can do something meaningful and make a difference to people's lives. That's kind of what I'm gathering from this from you, and manufacturing is a great venue for making that a reality. Yeah, really, you know what it I mean. You know it, and you mentioned earlier the girl that had you know, not fully developed limbs and and the blind lady who you know, is able to get that D print. There was one. You know. I try to share something like that as often as like a Monday motivational type thing, right, because a lot of people want to see how cool the machines are. They love here in the interviews from MTD. Holy Crab that person just combined three operation to reduce a Cyclo time by seventy five percent. How did they do so? Obviously our industry needs that, you know, but also from time to time let's realize what we're creating. Let's realize that. Oh, did you see that kid that cried when he got those contacts because he was actually able to see color for the first time in his life? Did you see that kid who never heard anything ever before pop that here in aid and it's here for the first time and cried because he could actually hear? You know what I mean. So these are the things that we are creating. That world of engineering. We can create anything. I mean we have nature,...

...we have air, we have you and me, we have people, but when you really think of it, we create almost everything and we can absolutely destroy this world or we can make this world a incredible place. That's that's the creation of what we want to do and I just I'd love to be an advocate to showcase. People say, you know what, you want to do something in your life to give back to others, you can do that in engineering. And while I see a lot of signs out there, you know, saying Heroes Work here, and I want to give credit to all of our medical field for the last, you know, year and a half and and our delivery drivers and our truckers and all these people who really, you know, have done you know, been brave and gone out there and done what they're supposed to do. I also think it's important that we recognize the engineering didn't stop. Ventilators came from engineers. Mask come from engineers. You know, all of this stuff come from engineers, and it takes a piece of ourselves to realize that and help express that to the world, because, while we love movies and TV shows and these are our heroes and these musicians and we're like, I'm going to get away from my normal life, I'm going to go to the red rocks out in Colorado and I'm gonna Watch Michael Frantie saying I'm gonna, you know, dance around. Yeah, that's awesome. We should support that type of environment. But also, let's look at one another. LE's look at each other, give each other a high five or a Giddey up, which I call smack on the but give him a Gidea up and say, you know what, you are awesome to look at everything you've created. Let's let's do these things. Awesome man. Well, I love the message, Tony. Think it's really great. I appreciate you allowing me to share it, for sure. Well, anything, anything you want to say to put a bow on this? I think you did did a pretty job of that already, but I want to open the floor to you in case there's anything you you want to add that I didn't ask you about. Are we getting ready to close out this podcast already? We've been talking for three hours, that May and I talk a lot, don't I? Three? Three hours exactly on the die. Just kidding. Well, I guess, just real quick, if it's okay, let's make sure that we're not crabs in a bucket for the people who are listening out there. Yes, there's competition. Competition will make us better. Competition is important, but let's not Yank each other down. Let's create a platform with you can all, we can all succeed. In my opinion, every marketing company out there that would be quote unquote, competitors with Mtd. Please don't look at yourselves that way. Please don't look at me that way. I'm not you looking at you that way. I want us all to bring awareness to this incredible industry. And if I may just touch on one last thing, the natural healing company that I started going back to helping people again, was studying with herbalist and which doctors and Shaman's and all my free time as I traveled around the world. So there's a lot of secret healing benefits to that. But I launched that company because I wanted to be able to give back to the earth and to people and two animals and anything that suffers. So for not one hundred percent right now, but for a while, for three or four years, one hundred percent of the profits went to those in need. It went to give kids the world a Marine Mammal Center and to take care of the Amazon, and that's why it was created and I'm happy... say, since two thousand and fourteen, to now start in July ten we will open our first brick and mortar shop, as we have partnered with the largest natural healing community and the entire country called hypocrates, here in West Palm Beach. So that is my conclusion. Brother, I appreciate you having me. Awesome man, congratulations. That's that's really cool. Well, very good, Tony. Good conversation. Again, I just love your enthusiasm and passion and glad we got to get you up on stage here to let the world see it. So before we wrap it, I just want want you to tell our audience where can they go connect with you? I've Kinda learn more about what you're doing in all the elements of what's going on in your life. Well, I'm pretty easy to find on Linkedin. That can obviously be best. Is there anytime? I'm not going to shout out my phone number of my home address, but I do give it out regularly and my personal number is on my business cards. So if someone sends me a message on Linkedin and it's something that we want to discuss over the phone or over a zoom meeting, I am as authentic and transparent and human, with all of my flaws, as I can be, and I'm happy to connect with anyone who wants to connect. Obviously I have, you know, the Instagram as well and facebook, but I rarely use them as much as I do leaked. Then I think linkedin is a powerful platform to connect with really, you know, wise people in a situation that hasn't been watered down like some of the other platforms. I really value something like Youtube and Linkedin and the algorithms that go along with it so that we're not just, you know, yell at it each one other over some silly opinion that we have zero degrees in right. We don't. We don't really know, but we definitely have an opinion about it. So I enjoy linkedin. So look me up there. I think my backslash is, you know, linkedincom Bat safe, Tony Gun fourteen or something like that. But just look up EMPTDC and see and TDC and C Global. You'll find us. Let's all be friends easiest way, I think. Awesome. Tony, will thank you once again, and as for the rest of you, I hope to catch you on the next episode of the Manufacturing Executive. 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