The Manufacturing Executive
The Manufacturing Executive

Episode · 5 months ago

Why We’re Proud to Be Manufacturers & Engineers

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

At first, his entry into the manufacturing industry was out of a need for survival.

But it quickly grew into a passion to encourage those who want to become a better version of themselves to embrace the hope, pride, and success to be found in manufacturing.

In this episode, I interview Tony Gunn, General Manager at MTDCNC Global and Founder and CEO at Your Tea of Life, about his amazing career trajectory from being kicked out of three colleges to entrepreneurship.

In this episode we discuss:

  • How manufacturing equips us to create our own futures
  • Tony’s discovery of his passion for learning and creating
  • Why manufacturing is such a welcoming and uplifting career
  • 3 stories about struggle, success, and advocacy

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

  • Tony’s podcast is The Gunn Show

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I want parents when somebody goes hey, what your kid do? All my kids a pilot and they puff outtheir chest. Yeah, we're proud of the pilot's awesome, we need you. I fly around all the time. But I also want the parent nextto them to go, well, what's your kid do? Puff out yourchest. So He's an engineer. He helped build that plane. I wantpeople to be equally as proud of the doctors and the people who are makingthe medical devices. I want that awareness to grow so that we're proud ofeach other for what we do. Welcome to the manufacturing executive podcast, wherewe explore the strategies and experiences that are driving midsize manufacturers forward. Here you'lldiscover new insights from passionate manufacturing leaders who have compelling stories to share about theirsuccesses and struggles, and you'll learn from B tob sales and marketing experts abouthow to apply actionable business development strategies inside your business. Let's get into theshow. Welcome to another episode of the Manufacturing Executive podcast. I'm Joe Sullivan, your host and a cofounder of the Industrial Marketing Agency guerrilla seventy six,one of my favorite things about working with the manufacturing sector is seeing all theways our clients shape the world around us. Everything you see that doesn't grow outof the Earth was designed, engineered and built by someone. My guesttoday is someone who's passionate about sharing all the good that engineering could do inthis world. His passion and enthusiasm for both engineering and manufacturing is undeniable andit's the type of energy we need to shed a positive light on this industryfor the next generation. So, on that note, let me introduce TonyGun Tony Gunn is an avid world traveler, visionary and all around people person,having traveled over fifty countries around the world. He's transcended to plus decadesof engineering and manufacturing experience into a partnership with Mtd CNC, the world's mostpopular machining channel, and effort to create awareness for all the amazing products,people and opportunities within the fascinating world where math, science and creativity are baptizedand immersed as one. Tony is an international best selling author whose book wentnumber one and seven countries under topics like self help, personal transformation and motivationalgrowth. He's also the host of an exciting new podcast series, the gunshow, where guests have the opportunity to share their stories with the world,which helps humanize and industry that's incredibly misunderstood. Tony has also applied his years ofworld travels and independent studies in order to create a natural healing company knownfor its one of a kind combination of herbs, roots and flowers, whichhelp prevent, improve and remove ailments of all kinds. Much of the profitsfrom this company go to the wellbeing of people in need, the Rehab ofthe earth and innocent forgotten animals. Tony,...

...welcome to the show. Thank youso much for having me. Brother, it's good to be here. Yeah, man, well, we've kind of known each other. We've beenkind of like in the same circles, I feel like, in linked in, especially, a lot of common connections and I'm always commenting on your postsand you on mine and stuff, and we didn't actually physically talk until abouta month ago or so. So it's it's good to be having a reallive conversation with you, with you here. Yeah, that's odd in the worldwe live in these days, right where you send each other text messagesor emails or little linkedin messages but we often fail to pick up the phoneand go hey. So that's what your voice sounds like. Awesome, yousound as great as you look. You know that kind of Bay right.So, yeah, we've known each other for quite a while or surrounded bya lot of the same influencers and brilliant minds, because you similar to me. We like to surround ourselves with people that are smarter than ourselves so thatwe can learn something. And one of my favorite quotes is your smartest personin the room, you're in the wrong room. Good the hell out ofthere. I like that for sure. Well, Tony, you know whenwe talked it was you know, I picked you for as a possible,you know, candidate for this podcast, because I see your content all theall the time on Linkedin in particular. Think you've got twenty Onezero plus followersas of the last time I've checked, which is pretty awesome. You've gota great platform for broadcasting a message and you share a lot of super interestingvideos, I mean, like machines at work. Also a lot of thingsthat I want to get into a little later in this conversation, like beingreally interesting applications of engineering for the greater good. Of Humanity, frankly,and there's some cool examples a I'll maybe mentioned in a bit. But youknow, when I when I had you in mind for the show, I'mlike, Oh, let's talk about how you know using linkedin and and someof the video content that you're curating and posting. and wasn't all. Wehad a conversation that I learned some of the stories from that kind of howyou got to where you are today and some of the challenges you've been through. And so usually I say hey, why don't you know? I usuallytell my guess. Why don't you talk a little bit about how you gothere for a couple minutes, I'm going to say once you talk about howyou got here for as long as you want to, because you've got asuper interesting story to tell, I think, and would love for you to tellour listeners about how it's sort of shaped where who and where you aretoday. Yeah, I'd absolutely love to. But to start just let me saythank you for finding value in my linkedin age and in the post,and I hope others do as well. It's certainly one of those hopefully presentedin a way that has very little to do with ego and very much todo with awareness. You know, I hope that it provides people a platformto see something they haven't seen before or feel inspired to want to be apart of an industry where they didn't realize, you know, some pieces are beingcreated. You know, oftentimes we don't put two and two together togo, oh, man, my you know my best friend, he justcame back. You know, he's a military bet he just came back andhe had a horrific accident. You know, thank you for the service, Iwould think, but he's missing a limb. Holy Crap, I didn'trealize that. Being an engineering means I can help that limb come back insome sort of bionic and really cool way.

So, and that's just one tinyexample. I know we'll talk about that a little bit more. Ijust wanted to just say thank you for paying attentions to that and I hopeit provides a great platform for others as well. But back to your questionof how I got where I am today, and we'll find out what the listenersif it's interesting or not. I think it is. I think it'spretty wild actually, and I'm one of those stubborn guys that pretty much doeswhatever I want if it feels right and it doesn't hurt anyone right. SoI'm not going to go be violent, but if a rule doesn't make senseto my logical side of my brain, you could forget about it. I'mgoing to ignore that all day long. And so I've ended up in someunique situations and some unique places. I guess. To start, I thinkit's important for people to understand, especially the kids of today, but also, let me you know, maybe I should take out especially and go expeciallythe parents today, but also emphasize that a support that the kids learn,because there was a generation where we, I think our parents and are inthe parents before them. There was a generation that felt like a lot ofmanufacturing kind of hurt them, and what I mean by that is a lotof products will being off short and done in other places right and and alot of jobs were lost, and so people got stuck being, you know, having this education or having this this technical ability, but there was nojob for it because so much stuff was being off short for a last coupleof generations. And we're just starting to realize again how significant can it isthat we can create here at home, that we can build here at homethat we can restore here at home. And the reason I'm explaining this isbecause part of where I come from and part of what I'm about to shareis all inclusive into that awareness and realization and really just this massive passion thatultimately goes back to wanting to help people. Right. So, as I wasgrowing up, I didn't grow up so easily, and you're welcome tointerrupt me at any point be like, are you serious right now, orwherever you want to do. You welcome to interrupt me, brother, atany time. But you know, I grew up in a situation that didn'thave a lot of money, not a lot of opportunity. The only thingthat I grew up with really was stubborn mind and soccer skills. So mywhole life I thought I was gonna be a professional soccer player, which,as everyone can see, did not work out. I wasn't quite good enough. I played in college, I was on, you know, like theAll American team, you know, things like that, but it's just acompletely different level of understanding when you get to the really the one percent ofthe one percent of the one percent, right, and due to that factor, I needed to get a job and I just so happened to hop intothe world of manufacturing because the company had the best insurance around. I neededinsurance, I needed to take care of my beat up soccer body. Soat that time, by default, no degree. Actually, to be fair, I got kicked out of three colleges. I want that not to be lookeddown upon. I want it to be looked at with authenticity, becausea message I want to create for people outside of this industry right now thatthink that they may not have hope there...

...is you can come into this industryif your father, you know, doesn't provide a massive or your mother doesn'tprovide a massive amount of income for you, if you happen to be on thewrong side of the tracks, as people say, and you don't believethere's any opportunity, whether it be, you know, jail or whatever whateverit might be. Right, what your future is is what we can create. We can, we can massively create whatever future we want. And sofor me, admitting I got kicked out of three colleges thinking that I wasgoing to be a soccer player and never graduated, I want that message tobe shared, I want it to have volume and I want people who thinkthat they're going through a similar situation to go will shoot if he's traveled theworld to over fifty countries and learned and worked with some of the most elitecompanies on the planet, like the Google's and the Tesla's and the SPACEX andthe apples, and he got kicked out of three colleges, that maybe Ican do it too right. So that's the message I want to provide now. To become the person that I am today, and you mentioned this aswell, with a lot of the direction and post that I make have todo in the direction of compassion, caring, unity, doing good for one another. When I was a early s I more or less died in thehospital by anemone. You took my life, suffocated my lungs. I've had friendskilled at a young age. I've had family members lost at a youngage. There were a lot of trials and tribulations that happened from about agetwenty one to about twenty five or so right and there was a lot ofsuffering, to be fair, a lot of emotional suffering, you know,and and that emotional suffering started to suffocate me. And what I did,which not everyone can do. But how I found my way out of areally dark place was through music, and I was never good at it,but I actually performed tiphop music for almost a decade and some people will gohip hop music, we don't know that. You do not look like a hiphop guy, and I don't. And it was by default because beforeI got kicked out of college, I wrote poetry for the newspaper and Icannot sing, no matter how bad I'd love to sing, but it's awful. So by default I could say words in rhymes and I needed to getsome things off of my chest. So my suffering that I was going through, so that therapeutic situation just was incredibly powerful. And I'm going to kindof leave it there because I don't want to talk too much because I valueyour opinion and your seguys as well. By friend. But that's kind ofthe very beginning of my journey, before I became a machinist, before Iswitched into a different style of machinery, before I started traveling around and beforewhat I'm doing today. A lot of it came from absolute suffering, whichis kind of how duality works. How do we know what a good appletakes, like if we've never tasted a bad apple. You know what Imean. How do we know these differences if we don't get to experience thesedifferences? So I am extremely grateful for the hardships and the amount of hardshipsI went through it one time to allow me to appreciate all the greatness that'saround me right now. That's really cool.

I love how you've taken your lifeexperiences in some of the you know, the tough things you went through asa child and into your early adult life, and and figured out howto turn that into something positive, not only for yourself but in the messageyou kind of broadcast for for the world and and particularly for the manufacturing world. So you mentioned you got into manufacturing because you needed insurance and you founda job and they had insurance it. But tell me, like you're aguy who kind of see looses passion for what you do. It's very clear. What was it once you got into manufacturing that made you say like yeah, this is for me, this is this is where I'm going to takemy career from here. It's a it's a really excellent question, Joe,it really is. And the reason it's an excellent question is because I wasn'tthat guy on day one who said Oh, we I can't wait to do thislest of my life, because I was running a punch press and Iwas dirty every day and all the cliches that I'm trying to get people tonot think about was actually what I went through. You know, I wasprogramming on a one point four, four megabyte and every time I bring thatup somebody else goes yeah, but you got to skip the tape programming.Yes, I did. I did get to skip the tape programming, buton an early age, you know, we were on the you know,older machines and we were making all of the offsets, all of the programand all of the adjustments were just we typed them in ourselves, line byline, until we really upgraded and started using excel. If that tells youhow advanced that company was at that time. My Passion for this company, ofthis this industry came really much later. It was more of survival at thebeginning, right. I needed a job and I needed to make moremoney, and then I needed to make more money and then I because,you know, then families and then lifestyle and that kind of thing. Sostarting on a punch press. The first thing I ever did was push toobuttons on the right and left with both of my hands. If I didn'tthen maybe I'd, you know, cut my finger off. So that wasa safety measure. A piece of plexiglass came down and it will punch acircular hole into a flat sheet of precious metal, and that precious metal couldhave been gold, silver, palladium, platinum, whatever it might be.The first industry I worked in was precious metals and while I was there,I always have. I've always had the passion to be successful. Right it'snot necessarily been a manufacturing to start, but it was to do something cool, to do something fun. So within that company I said how could Ibe the best version of myself that I can be, and I don't needto compete with the person next to me, the person who's been here for amillion years. I just need to be the best version of myself.How do I do that? So I picked the highest senior programmer in ourdepartment and he was kind enough to teach me a lot of his wisdom ofhow to make edits and offsets and programming and understanding G COODE and mcode andand I ended up running that department after a while, and while running thatdepartment I also had the great opportunity to,...

...you know, be a part ofcompany improvement committees. And then there was this thing called, I think, software, which most people haven't heard of, but most people have heardof six sigma. So if you think of lean manufacturing five as six sigma, it's a lot of grass, it's a lot of charts, as alot of theory of what we believe. I think software is where you takethat, put it, that algorithm, into a computer and that computer willactually run that flow chart to see if you're right, to see if thebottlenext really are where they're supposed to be. So I had the great opportunity tobe in charge of that and learned the lean manufacturing side of things.At that time I had designed a seven, I want to say seven different ringswhich were patented by the company. So my designs ended up being patentedby that company and it was really just an exciting thing. These different thesedifferent aspects right, but it was a family owned company and at some pointwhen you can't grow anymore, you either just start becoming stagnant or make amove right and I chose to make a move. So from there I wentinto two steels and ink andales and brass and I it was the first timeI ran a hosts machine and I taught myself how to run it. Itwas a VF six, I remember vividly, and we were running, you know, giant steel circular parts for the radiator coil industry, two very tinyparts as well, and it was a lot of drilling million that kind ofstuff. I burnt up a few in middles at that time figuring out wait, this this machines a little different than platinum. And now I might havebeen considered it in a top five percent in the world of understating how machineplatinum, but I'm probably in the negative five percent of understanding how to machinesteel. So let's figure this out. So I had the great opportunity todo steals and Incanales and brasses and illuminum and play in that world. Thatdidn't last too long because the opportunity at that place it just the ceiling waslow and I get bored easily if I'm not learning. So then I movedinto the woodworking world and help run a machine shop that was for acres andit was completely new machinery, right. So I was learning now on acrns rude, who I love those machines, based in North Carolina. So arouter machine putting out the wood panels for doors for there I started learningsanding lines and paint lines and all this other kind of stuff. And thensomehow, through growth in that company, I ended up becoming an interior designer. Believe it or not. Oddly enough, while working in the world of woodworking, we were building custom cabinetry for anyone, whether it be kitchens,living rooms, bathrooms, whatever it might be, and they saw, Iguess, a little bit of I don't want to say like a spark,but drive, let's say. There was always a drive to want to domore. And it wasn't that I wanted to leave the shop floor, Ijust wanted to learn more. So a few small steps here and there andI ended up being the right hand man of the owner and and we'd havecustomers come in, and I'm trying to try to describe this so the listenerscan envision it right. So we're sitting in a conference room and these customerscome in. You know they're getting ready to build a hundred and fiftyzero dollarcustom kitchen, because that's when the owner sits down right. So we havemy laptop and connected to my laptop is a big monitor so that the customerscan see the screen while I'm designing it.

And I'm supposed to be able todesign a kitchen as quickly as they can talk about it, which iswhat I figured out how to do. So as quickly as you can sayI want this here, in this here, in this here. Boom, boomboom. We were moving this thing around and it was called Cabinet Vision. Cabinet vision really, really a cool opportunity. But then I also startedto realize, kind of going full circle back to how you introduced this wholething, of I've always been stubborn and I always want to do something that'sgoing to make me happy and give back to others in a passionate way.So I put everything in a u haul, I left that job, I drovesouth to Florida because I wanted to live on vacation. Forgot to mentionall of that was in the Virginia DC area that I just talked about.Drove down to Florida because I wanted to live on vacation. Had No job, no place to live. My wife was six months pregnant at that time. We really just wanted to live on vacation and it took me eighteen twentyhours to make the drive, slept for about five hours, took on threeinterviews and all three companies hired me, and the one that I took wasair turbine technology. And for those people who don't know air turbine technology,that was when I got to learn micromachining. I mean the realm of ten thousandfifteen thousands, a millimeter of forty thousand or point zero, three ninethirty seven. That was the world I lived in for the last decade,which took me to see so many unique people, and that was when,that was when that connection, Joe, that the original question you asked mebefore I had this really long winded answer that I'm doing right now. Thatis when I started to find a passion for the industry itself because I sawthe success that we were creating for companies. The success that was being created createdsuccess for the employees. The successful the employees meant that they could gohome and feed their family and not stress about a job, and I startedto see this, this small picture. I was staring at a small screenand then it's like I got wings and I was able to look at aglobal version of what manufacturing and engineering actually can do to stabilize not just households, which is incredibly important, but economies and and you don't have to worryabout necessarily if we go to a there's nothing against college, Joe, NothingAgainst College. So let me echo that again. For people who are goingto college, for parents who want their kids to go to college, collegeis awesome. The experience is awesome. If that's for you, do it. However, I would like to say that it's very important for people torealize that you can go to a tech school right now, right now,and you will walk out of that Tech School with either zero or very littlestudent loans. Walking out of it, you'll go right into a job becausethere's a massive skills gap where you can instantly make forty to eightyzero dollars ayear and you have something that you don't have to stress about not having toborrow. This industry needs more people and if we can convey these types ofmessages, then we're helping and we're not just helping an economy. We're helpingpeople, we're helping humans, we're hope...

...at helping household to me, that'swhat's so beautiful and amazing about it. I love that. I love thepassion that's in your voice. It's just very clear that you know, youreally believe in what you're talking about and it's a good transition into a questionI wanted to ask you because, you know, like I mentioned at thevery beginning here, I see your linkedin content all the time. You're alwayscurating videos and a lot of the things I see you post are, youknow, videos you're sharing that are then getting, you know, thousands ofviews and hundreds of comments, but it's a lot of it is people whoare doing good in the world through engineering and manufacturing. And just for acouple examples, these ones are, I think both you posted in the lastweek videos. You shared one of them. I remember it was a it lookedlike maybe a six year old girl. I've got a six year old daughterat home, so I I see that and they hit home with me. But this is a six year old girl on a treadmill, without fullyformed arms or legs and she's running on a treadmill with the help of manufacturedlimbs. And then there was another one you posted. It was a soonto be mom who was blind and she's holding a D printed model of herultrasound photo with like, you know, just tears in her eyes like thatshe can feel, you know, this baby in this picture of her baby, that that is on the way. And so, you know, they'remicro examples of the good that engineering is doing in the world and in manufacturing. And so I would love for you to just kind of you know,what is it that inspires you to share this, what you talk about thistopic of engineering for good and why it's so important to you? It's reallya great question. Again, you're fantastic at your podcasting, brother and yourfifteen years in the making and what you're doing at g seventy six. I'dlike to say thank you to you as well and to your team and allowingpeople to have a voice. You know, we we allot. Everyone has astory, right and everyone wants to share their story to people who actuallylisten. The problem is most of us don't listen anymore. We always afflory. We're either, you know, on our phones looking down or ignoring peopleor, you know, we forget how important it is to listen to oneanother. So thank you for doing what you're doing very much, and Imean that a lot. I'm going to share a couple of stories with yourbrother when I suffocated and when I lost a lot of people in my lifeand I grew up not being the best version of myself at all. Iwas a troublemaker and, as I started to realize in life, this mightsound a lot of you know, weird to our general audience who's in manufacturingengineering, but I have both sides of my brain work actively all the time, the creative side with natural healing, the engineering side with numbers and algorithms. So it's always constantly working. I'm always trying to figure out how canI balance all of what I want to be right. So, due tomy upbringing, let's say the way that I grew up, and not bein the nicest person I feel like some of that carmic energy brought about someof the negative things in my life or less, and I said let's saylearning experiences, because nothing's really negative,...

...it's just I'm either going to learnfrom it or it's going to be easy to get through. Let's make thatchoice, you know what I mean. So, due to that, Irealized that when I was kind er, nicer, cared about others, whenI gave, I received more. Every time I give, I received more. I'll tell you. I want to tell you three stories, and thethree ques simple stories, but I want to tell you three stories. Firstone is I was having a bad day. I was in San Francisco. Iwoke up grumpy. I had no idea why, I just the daywas crap. It was already crap. Maybe it was something I had donethe day before. Maybe I didn't make a sale that I thought I wasgoing to sell, but a little customer. Maybe I broke something I would Idon't remember, but I remember waking up feeling like crap and I saidwhat can I do? Well, I walked over to the local McDonald's.Not Something I personally eat at, but something that's inexpensive and can be shared. So I walked over to the local McDonald's, bought fifty dollars worth ofwhatever their breakfast items were, you know, egnant muffins or whatever, and Iwalked around, going gate park and I handed them out and with everyoneI handed out the hugs, the joy, everything that came along with it justhelped me feel happier and happier and happier. So giving and receiving ourabsolutely symbiotic and how it works. And that was just one small example.Another time this guy had he was having a bad drug experience in southern Californiaand he was freaking out and I went to get ass and he was,I mean he was and he was struggling, sweating like crazy. Not a drugthat I've ever participated in, but I recognize that based on trying todo my best to help people on a regular basis, right so I've seenthese types of situations. He was scared for his life. He did notwant to be there. Nobody, no way in the right mind, wasgoing to help the kid. But I let him get in my car andI drove him around for forty five minutes. He did not want to get out, he just wanted to to be away from whoever he thought was chasinghim, which was nobody, but that's what he thought. So I droveher off for forty five minutes, listening to him talk, helping him gothrough his bead trip, trying to offer him the most authentic and Compassionate versionof myself so that he knew that when he left that car, that everythingwas going to be okay. And after about forty five minutes, that's whatit was. So I ended up dropping him off in a lighted area.I had never saw him sense, of course, and I didn't get hisnumber anything, but as just an opportunity to face my own fears, whichis, at any point this guy could hurt me right at any point.Now to the climax of the three stories, as his last one. Joe,you're going to like it, and actually some people on a show calledhidden heroes actually found this story and interviewed me about six seven. You maybefour or five, six seven, I don't remember. A few years ago, and I'm gonna preface this with my younger brother, who's two years youngerthan me, ended up being diagnosed with schizophrenia and burnt down our house whenI was about twenty years old. So when our house burnt down and Iknew that he had schizophrenia and he spent a year in jail and I visitedhim all the time, I started studying schizophrenia. Well, what can Ido to help? I mean, that's my best friend, that's my twoyears. We grew up together. I love the Kid freaking what do Ido? You know, there's no real...

...answers, but we're you know,I'm homeless at the time. I'm sleeping in my car. I'm very,very lucky sleeping on the street some and I'm very, very lucky to havesuch beautiful friends in my life that I didn't stay on the streets very long. Did that we crash their pads. So I'm grateful for that. Butwhat I learned was all the schizophrenia out there, of all the doctors outthere, less than two percent study schizophrenia and all of those two percent thereis no cure. So for the rest of my brother's life he's gonna beshoves pills down his throat to become passive so it doesn't burn down other housesand he's always going to hear the voices and see the visions of what Ibelieve to be a Peneo gland chemical drip. Some people understand what DMT is,some people don't, but it's a drip in our brain that helps usexperience things that are outside of our third dimensional reality. That's not manufacturing,so I'm going to skip past that part. And use that for another podcast.But it does segue into me understanding that about eighty percent of the peopleon the street right now that are homeless have some sort of mental illness.And that could be gambling and it could be, you know, some sortof it could be a lot of things right, but there's it's some sortof mental illness where they can't carry out a job. Some of it scams. It's not for me to judge. I always want to help. Butbecause I knew that situation and I was in Minneapolis, Minnesota, I walkedout of a bar and for whatever reason, this homeless guys sitting there. Iwas in whatever mood I was in, which was a good mood. Itfelt right to do everything that I could to take care of that person. So I asked that homeless person, who I had never met before,if you'd like to crash for the next two nights in my hotel room.gave him my clothes, got him room service, made sure he was warm, brush his teeth, you know, all that kind of stuff. WhenI went to work during the day, I asked him to leave and Iwould see him when I got back from work. But that also was oneof those opportunities that I had where I was like, okay, you know, mental illness is rampant with homeless people. You just invited someone in who couldbe very similar to your brother without medicine, who could be very aggressive. So for me, I wouldn't recommend it for other people, but forme I was in one room laying in my bed, he was on anotherroom, laying in the couch, and I had a moment where I go, is today going to be my last day? Is all my stuff goingto get taken from me? And nothing bad happened. It was just thisfear of creation that I was I was building with them myself. That wasn'treality. It could be reality, but it wasn't reality. And so,facing these types of fears and helping these types of people, I want todo everything that I can to I don't know, subscribe as the right wordor, you know, just infiltrait some of the school I want to providea platform of knowledge so that kids can have a future within an industry thatis incredibly important to the world and when they go home every day they'll beproud of what they do. So the...

...short answer, which I just gaveyou a very long but the short answer is, why do I care andwhy manufacturing is because I've suffered a lot and I know what it's like tosuffer. I want to give to others and in the world we live in, of manufacturing, I know that that's a solid platform for people to feelproud of themselves, to feel grateful for what they do, to feel gratefulfor what they've built, to say I have this piece of material in myhand right now. This piece of material cost me twenty five dollars. NowI can program something and cut some pieces, or I turn this twenty five pieceof material into a thousand dollar piece of art and it's going to goon to a plane or it's going to go into the medical field. Iwant parents, when somebody goes hey, what your kid do? All mykids a pilot and they puff out their chest. Yeah, we're proud ofthe pilot's awesome, we need you. I fly around all the time.But I also want the parent next to them to go, but what's yourkid do? Puff out your chest. So He's an engineer. He helpedbuild that plane. I want people to be equally as proud of the doctorsand the people who are making the medical devices. I want that awareness togrow so that we're proud of each other for what we do. Love thatmessage, Tony. I think it's really great. We need more people likeyou spread in the word and painting manufacturing in a, you know, morepositive light. And I've seen a lot of people talk about this from differentangles. You know, the technology that's that's available to people now. It'snot just dirty, dark, dangerous jobs like there's. There's so much interestingthings happening on the technology front. There are great jobs that, I meanyou mentioned earlier to that are paying people well straight out of high school andlike college, may not be for everybody. And that does mean because you're notsmart enough, for Ben because maybe that that's just not the path thatmakes sense for you and has nothing to do with how intelligent you are.Not, and and I love the you know, just that your perspective onthis, that you know you can do something meaningful and make a difference topeople's lives. That's kind of what I'm gathering from this from you, andmanufacturing is a great venue for making that a reality. Yeah, really,you know what it I mean. You know it, and you mentioned earlierthe girl that had you know, not fully developed limbs and and the blindlady who you know, is able to get that D print. There wasone. You know. I try to share something like that as often aslike a Monday motivational type thing, right, because a lot of people want tosee how cool the machines are. They love here in the interviews fromMTD. Holy Crab that person just combined three operation to reduce a Cyclo timeby seventy five percent. How did they do so? Obviously our industry needsthat, you know, but also from time to time let's realize what we'recreating. Let's realize that. Oh, did you see that kid that criedwhen he got those contacts because he was actually able to see color for thefirst time in his life? Did you see that kid who never heard anythingever before pop that here in aid and it's here for the first time andcried because he could actually hear? You know what I mean. So theseare the things that we are creating. That world of engineering. We cancreate anything. I mean we have nature,...

...we have air, we have youand me, we have people, but when you really think of it, we create almost everything and we can absolutely destroy this world or we canmake this world a incredible place. That's that's the creation of what we wantto do and I just I'd love to be an advocate to showcase. Peoplesay, you know what, you want to do something in your life togive back to others, you can do that in engineering. And while Isee a lot of signs out there, you know, saying Heroes Work here, and I want to give credit to all of our medical field for thelast, you know, year and a half and and our delivery drivers andour truckers and all these people who really, you know, have done you know, been brave and gone out there and done what they're supposed to do. I also think it's important that we recognize the engineering didn't stop. Ventilatorscame from engineers. Mask come from engineers. You know, all of this stuffcome from engineers, and it takes a piece of ourselves to realize thatand help express that to the world, because, while we love movies andTV shows and these are our heroes and these musicians and we're like, I'mgoing to get away from my normal life, I'm going to go to the redrocks out in Colorado and I'm gonna Watch Michael Frantie saying I'm gonna,you know, dance around. Yeah, that's awesome. We should support thattype of environment. But also, let's look at one another. LE's lookat each other, give each other a high five or a Giddey up,which I call smack on the but give him a Gidea up and say,you know what, you are awesome to look at everything you've created. Let'slet's do these things. Awesome man. Well, I love the message,Tony. Think it's really great. I appreciate you allowing me to share it, for sure. Well, anything, anything you want to say to puta bow on this? I think you did did a pretty job of thatalready, but I want to open the floor to you in case there's anythingyou you want to add that I didn't ask you about. Are we gettingready to close out this podcast already? We've been talking for three hours,that May and I talk a lot, don't I? Three? Three hoursexactly on the die. Just kidding. Well, I guess, just realquick, if it's okay, let's make sure that we're not crabs in abucket for the people who are listening out there. Yes, there's competition.Competition will make us better. Competition is important, but let's not Yank eachother down. Let's create a platform with you can all, we can allsucceed. In my opinion, every marketing company out there that would be quoteunquote, competitors with Mtd. Please don't look at yourselves that way. Pleasedon't look at me that way. I'm not you looking at you that way. I want us all to bring awareness to this incredible industry. And ifI may just touch on one last thing, the natural healing company that I startedgoing back to helping people again, was studying with herbalist and which doctorsand Shaman's and all my free time as I traveled around the world. Sothere's a lot of secret healing benefits to that. But I launched that companybecause I wanted to be able to give back to the earth and to peopleand two animals and anything that suffers. So for not one hundred percent rightnow, but for a while, for three or four years, one hundredpercent of the profits went to those in need. It went to give kidsthe world a Marine Mammal Center and to take care of the Amazon, andthat's why it was created and I'm happy...

...to say, since two thousand andfourteen, to now start in July ten we will open our first brick andmortar shop, as we have partnered with the largest natural healing community and theentire country called hypocrates, here in West Palm Beach. So that is myconclusion. Brother, I appreciate you having me. Awesome man, congratulations.That's that's really cool. Well, very good, Tony. Good conversation.Again, I just love your enthusiasm and passion and glad we got to getyou up on stage here to let the world see it. So before wewrap it, I just want want you to tell our audience where can theygo connect with you? I've Kinda learn more about what you're doing in allthe elements of what's going on in your life. Well, I'm pretty easyto find on Linkedin. That can obviously be best. Is there anytime?I'm not going to shout out my phone number of my home address, butI do give it out regularly and my personal number is on my business cards. So if someone sends me a message on Linkedin and it's something that wewant to discuss over the phone or over a zoom meeting, I am asauthentic and transparent and human, with all of my flaws, as I canbe, and I'm happy to connect with anyone who wants to connect. ObviouslyI have, you know, the Instagram as well and facebook, but Irarely use them as much as I do leaked. Then I think linkedin isa powerful platform to connect with really, you know, wise people in asituation that hasn't been watered down like some of the other platforms. I reallyvalue something like Youtube and Linkedin and the algorithms that go along with it sothat we're not just, you know, yell at it each one other oversome silly opinion that we have zero degrees in right. We don't. Wedon't really know, but we definitely have an opinion about it. So Ienjoy linkedin. So look me up there. I think my backslash is, youknow, linkedincom Bat safe, Tony Gun fourteen or something like that.But just look up EMPTDC and see and TDC and C Global. You'll findus. Let's all be friends easiest way, I think. Awesome. Tony,will thank you once again, and as for the rest of you,I hope to catch you on the next episode of the Manufacturing Executive. You'vebeen listening to the manufacturing executive podcast to ensure that you never miss an episode, subscribe to the show in your favorite podcast player. If you'd like tolearn more about industrial marketing and sales strategy, you'll find an ever expanding collection ofarticles, videos, guides and tools specifically for bdb manufacturers at Gorilla Seventysixcom learn thank you so much for listening. Until next time.

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